We are a podcast all about applying counseling theories to the male leads in romance books. We love a book boyfriend, but sometime the trauma is too much. Listen and Alyssa and Nora try to understand the underlying issues with some of our favorite romantic leads. Sometimes we really need to ask ourselves… Is he hot, or is it just trauma?

Nora and Alyssa met during their master’s in counseling. The two bonded over their mutual love of books. One day, they thought, let’s combine our two interests, counseling and romance books. From that, they created He’s Just the Plot.